HAARP and the recent Haiti earthquake

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread534062/pg26


EISCAT/HAARP facility, near of Tromso, Norway
69°40'58''N, 18°56'34''E

HAARP/Tesla tower farm, Istra, Russia
55°55'26.15''N, 36°49'10.97''E

HAARP farcility, Alaska - Wrangell Mountains, USA.
62°23'29.66''N, 145°08'58.47''W

I wouldn't say it was "all over top secret" but there was the one post on there referring to HAARP and the theory that was used in a huge ongoing depopulation of the entire planet. While keeping an open mind i need more evidence....circumstantial or not.

There are over 10 comments related to haarp and the haiti earthquake on that thread I posted earlier. not just one person on there.

With HAARP and the threat of global governance, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this turned out to be a practice run for creating this type of crisis all around the world. Could Los Angeles be next? Also, could it be a experiment in eugenics?

The Haiti earthquake could have been cause by HAARP, after all the technology of earthquakes on demand is REAL and it's HERE!

What's going to be interesting is how the 2012 Mayan, and other so called prophecies will develop, the planet X, LHC, Cassini crashing into saturn to create another solar system are all part of a global conspiracy to rule the world .

With HAARP being the real WEAPON of Mass destruction withoutt firing a physical shot, it is very disturbing knowing we have the capability and that it could and will be used to desceive the people to believe that it's a cosmic event. Yet all man made.

Before the China earthquake last year there was an upside down CHEMBOW and days before that some strange clouds were forming, the Chinesse still believe that USA caused that earthquake.

NIkola Tesla in 1908 Fired up his famous Machine in Colorado and from it a huge burst of electromagnetic energy escaped, coencidently in RUSSIA at the TUNGUSKA River 12-mega-ton explosion took place, up to today scientist are looking for evidence of a comet or meteor, yet to be found.

NIkola stated in a local newspaper after that event in Russia: A small amount of energy can produce a huge amount of destruction elsewhere.

I don't understand what the big fuss over the quake in Haiti is all about.

Yes, a lot of people lost their lives and homes and that is a tragedy...I will be the first to admit that. But, on the other hand, Haiti...being the poorest and most underdeveloped nation in the western hemisphere, is now recieving a windfall of food, medical attention, fresh water, foreign goverment-sponsored and missionary rebuilding efforts, millions (if not billions) of dollars in foreign aid...it looks to me as if the earthquake was a blessing in disguise, not a tragic situation. This event will probably end up saving more lives than the quake took in the long run.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...rticleId=17000

"Hidden Agenda

The unspoken mission of US Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) with headquarters in Miami and US military installations throughout Latin America is to ensure the maintenance of subservient national regimes, namely US proxy governments, committed to the Washington Consensus and the neoliberal policy agenda. While US military personnel will at the outset be actively involved in emergency and disaster relief, this renewed US military presence in Haiti will be used to establish a foothold in the country as well pursue America's strategic and geopolitical objectives in the Caribbean basin, which are largely directed against Cuba and Venezuela. "

I couldn't make this stuff up...

It's been awhile since I posted here about the HAARP subject that I made and I have a tendency to sound like a broken record repeating stuff but I do think that ever since the Conspiracy Theory show has shown the HAARP episode like twice: Once for the new debut and then the marathon about a week ago.

Then we got earthquakes all of a sudden at California which was a 6 pointer and then at Haiti.

Even in the HAARP episode Jesse and his gang found out that HAARP has caused some odd stuff to happen out of the blue such as frying a guy with electricity above ground. The guy above ground while the workers at HAARP below were working on some stuff to cause man made electrical storms or whatever

Originally Posted by OptionsPlayer

The Haiti earthquake could have been cause by HAARP, after all the technology of earthquakes on demand is REAL and it's HERE!

Saying it is real does not make it real. Do you have a credible reference?

What's going to be interesting is how the 2012 Mayan, and other so called prophecies will develop, the planet X, LHC, Cassini crashing into saturn to create another solar system are all part of a global conspiracy to rule the world .

How would crashing the Cassini spacecraft into Saturn create another solar system?? Seriously?

With HAARP being the real WEAPON of Mass destruction withoutt firing a physical shot, it is very disturbing knowing we have the capability and that it could and will be used to desceive the people to believe that it's a cosmic event. Yet all man made.

Earthquakes happen. They happened before HAARP was built, and they will happen long after HAARP rusts away. Again, stating that something is a weapon does not make it so. Provide proof.

Before the China earthquake last year there was an upside down CHEMBOW and days before that some strange clouds were forming, the Chinesse still believe that USA caused that earthquake.

Many Chinese also believe that eating tiger penis will make them more virile. Again, belief is not equal to proof.

NIkola Tesla in 1908 Fired up his famous Machine in Colorado and from it a huge burst of electromagnetic energy escaped, coencidently in RUSSIA at the TUNGUSKA River 12-mega-ton explosion took place, up to today scientist are looking for evidence of a comet or meteor, yet to be found.

Please explain the physics of how the generation of a few hundred, thousand, or even hundred thousand watts of power could generate a 12 megaton explosion. Does the fact that all the scientists studying such cosmic events that I am aware of fully believe the theory that the explosion over Tunguska was a natural event cause by a near impact make you think at all?

NIkola stated in a local newspaper after that event in Russia: A small amount of energy can produce a huge amount of destruction elsewhere.

Please explain the physics of that to us.

Well at the very least HAARP could have been used for those few hurricanes that hit Haiti last year. If someone wanted to take over and start fresh a few hurricanes and a major earthquake would be a great way to build new...Haiti is a beautiful place... imagine what it would look like modernized? And how much MONEY can be made building it that way. Same thing with what happened with Katrina. Beautiful location, but filled with 'undesireable' elements. Real Estate has never been cheaper there. So wait a bit of time and buy it up and build new and expensive homes and businesses. With time, you can build a city that combines the size of LA or New York and add the excitement of Disney World and Las Vegas in the center of the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to Haiti and the areas effected by Katrina. Most people do not remember how Cuba was back in the day... It was like Vegas and Monte Carlo just a hop from the US.

On a side note, with all these donations, banking industries are getting a lot of liquid capital to grease the gears of business.... I wonder what else is going on behind the scenes of government as the world is focusing of the Haiti disaster? All of this I can easily see happening if **** Cheney had control of HAARP! Or perhaps Xe has similar technology, since they are now like a private CIA.

If I were planning to start an earthquake, HAARP isn't the first thing that would come to mind. But taking a wild shot in the dark as to how such technology could be used for this, there are two things that come to mind:

1. Microwaves could be concentrated along the fault line for many days heating up groundwater and causing explosive pockets of steam to form. However, according to wikipedia, HAARP transmits at the 2.7-10MHz range which is well below microwave frequencies. For example, microwave ovens, tuned to heat up water, are around 2.4GHz. Still, the energy would cause localized heating and it might be possible to generate steam.

2. If the fault line contained large amounts of quartz, it might be possible to remotely induce a piezoelectric effect that would greatly increase stresses in that area.

Both assume that the targeted fault line is already under significant stress and HAARP is only acting as a catalyst. Signal ground penetration would probably be an issue in either case; as a rule, higher EMF frequencies penetrate more deeply.

To minimize signal attenuation, the beam would probably have to bounce off an orbiting, geosynchronous reflector. HAARP transmits at about 3.6MW (according to wikipedia) which is a lot, especially for a phased array installation which can theoretically focus the beam precisely, minimizing signal loss -- sorta like a laser beam. If the beam were focused on a person, it would kill them instantly, possibly causing them to violently explode. That much power for one second is about equal to four pounds of dynamite, I believe. If you could focus that much power on a remote target for a couple of months, it would be around the energy of the a-bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

I'm very tired right now, and I'm rattling all of this off the top of my head, so don't take any of this for gospel. I have no idea what the attenuation level would be for a target as far away from Alaska as Haiti.

I think the "official" HAARP earthquake claims involve inducing electrical currents in underlying rock/magma, heating up the area at the fault. Due to ground penetration issues, this seems very unlikely unless antennas were set up in the area with cables carrying the signal energy deep underground.

Why would people(haarp, gov. and etc.) want to create problems and then go help them??? makes no sence... I don't think Haiti earthquake was man-made...

Originally Posted by DustBunny

How would the microwaves go from Alaska to Haiti without being blocked or absorbed by all the rock and water in between those two points. A straight line between Alaska and Haiti would pass through the mantle and part of the earth's core.

If you could bounce the microwaves off a reflector in space, how would those waves penetrate down through six miles of rock.

No EMF signal would be able to penetrate the earth without severe signal attenuation.

As I wrote, ground penetration attenuation would prevent heating beyond close to the surface.

You seem to be assuming that I am claiming this is feasible at all. Please reread my original post. I am wildly speculating. If you have a few million dollars lying around, I could test these theories for you. I highly doubt that any rigorous research into triggering earthquakes with EMF signals has been done in the past, at least from non-black ops projects.

The best way to produce any energy ******** from the Alaskan HAARP facility to Haiti would be to set up tuned antennas at the target area. This opens up many ways to pump energy into the ground, possibly with cables as I mentioned in my original post. In this case, you would be using HAARP as a remote power station analogous to Tesla's familiar experiments. BTW, HAARP is apparently capable of triggering very low frequency EMF emission by manipulating the ionosphere something like a drum membrane transducer. Depending on the energy ******** efficiency of this process, this could be a good way to ******** the energy signal all over the earth. Again, I have no idea what attenuation effects would be.

I have no idea if simply applying a focused EMF field would induce sufficient piezoelectric effects to cause a meaningful increase in fault line stresses, but strong EMF fields have been observed along fault lines, powerful enough to cause localized aurora-like events in the sky. These electric fields have been assumed to be triggered by piezoelectric EMF energy generated from stress placed on quartzite rich deposits along the fault line. If that is the case, then the reverse is certainly possible.

Originally Posted by DustBunny

How?

let's just ignore the issue of transmitting this effect from Alaska to Haiti for now. Explain how you would greate a piezoelectric effect underground.

Originally Posted by DustBunny

So, in other words, the idea that HAARP cause the Haitian earthquake is nonsense.

I thought so.

As I stated in my original post, I don't see how the popular theory of HAARP earthquake generation, requiring the signal to induce currents in underlying magma, could work. However, I'm shooting in the dark. If the ground surface could be highly charged, it might induce an opposite charge much deeper underground, something like a giant capacitor.

Since HAARP can manipulate the ionosphere to generate very low EMF frequencies, it might be possible to cause the ionosphere to vibrate over a fault line at the appropriate resonant frequency and trigger an earthquake. This would be similar to resonant frequency experiments conducted by Tesla. This might be the most feasible way to accomplish earthquake generation with HAARP.

It's been a long time since I last looked at the United States map but isn't Alaska like somewhat close to California?

Last week there was even though a minor earthquake from California it just makes you wonder since the HAARP place in Alaska in the Alaska state is right next to some states.

Also where is Haiti located? on the east siste of North America or the western side of North America?

Originally Posted by urrutiap

It's been a long time since I last looked at the United States map but isn't Alaska like somewhat close to California?

Last week there was even though a minor earthquake from California it just makes you wonder since the HAARP place in Alaska in the Alaska state is right next to some states.

Also where is Haiti located? on the east siste of North America or the western side of North America?

HAARP is thousands of miles from California. Haiti is on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola, which it shares with the Dominican Republic. Haiti is just a few miles off the easternmost coast of Cuba.

Originally Posted by DustBunny

and there are no states "right next to" Alaska. LOL

Take it easy. There's no need to ridicule someone just for asking honest questions. It's a lot better to be someone willing to learn than someone who has a closed mind. More than anything else, minds are closed out of fear to ask questions and facing ridicule than anything else.

Originally Posted by Van Smith

Take it easy. There's no need to ridicule someone just for asking honest questions. It's a lot better to be someone willing to learn than someone who has a closed mind. More than anything else, minds are closed out of fear to ask questions and facing ridicule than anything else.

But, you have to admit that for people who are online, maps are easy to come by and consult.

Regardless, the same fault system that runs through California also runs through Alaska and all of the Pacific rim. Dozens, maybe hundreds of earthquakes happen along that system every day.